Impeachment, Ukraine and Trump’s fitness to serve: Takeaways from Nikki Haley’s ‘Today’ interview


-Did you ever have any doubt about the fitness
of this President to serve? -I never did. -Any doubt about his
mental acuity? -I never did.
-Any question about his truthfulness,
his ability to tell the truth. -Savannah, I talked
to him multiple times, and when I had issues,
he always heard me out. I never had any concern on whether
he could handle the job ever. I have made up my mind. I mean, impeachment is literally
the worst punishment you can do to a public official,
and here you’ve got a situation where there was
no investigation, and the aid flowed
as it was supposed to. So when you look at that
situation, it’s hard to see where impeachment
would qualify for that. Impeachment is serious. It’s the most serious thing
you can do to a President. Other side of this is we are
less than a year away from the election. Instead, let the people decide. Let them hear the testimony. That’s fine,
but let them decide. I think it’s never
a good practice for us to ask a foreign country
to investigate an American. It’s just not a good practice. Having said that, there’s
no insistence on that call. There are no demands
on that call. It is a conversation
between two presidents that’s casual in nature,
and it’s just hard to find anywhere that
the President of Ukraine would have thought funds
were being held and that he had to do this. Americans should want
to know the answer of, “Did Biden pressure the
prosecutor to do what he did?” And I think there’s
a real question there. You could question
the President, but you also have
to question what Biden did. We should ask, “Was Biden’s
position abused?” I was a governor,
and if people in my cabinet tried to undermine me,
it’s very dangerous. -Did you say that right then
and there to them — “Hey, guys,
this is way out of line”? -They totally knew
that I was not going to be with them because —
-Would you say that? Did you say to the President
later, “Hey, you got two guys
working against you”? -The President was aware, yes.
-You told him? -Yes. If you disagreed with getting
out of the Iran deal, if you disagreed
with moving our Embassy or getting out
of the Paris Climate Agreement, go tell the President, and if
you still don’t like it, quit. -That news conference was globally condemned
because of that moment, but you were the only person
in the administration who said, “Hey, that didn’t
look so great.” -That’s what he told me.
-Do you hold Russia at all accountable
for anything in particular? -I hold both countries
responsible. I think that the United States
has been foolish. I think we’ve all been foolish. The probe is a disaster
for our country. -I said, “Look, this sounded
soft,” and he said, “Really?” John Kelly was in the room
with me when I had this meeting, and he looked at John
and he said, “All of you guys
said I did great.” When I had my cabinet,
what I asked my cabinet was, “Be creative. Help serve the people, and tell me
if you see something wrong.” I did for him what I wanted
my cabinet to do for me.

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